What is Statis Pro Baseball?
Statis Pro Baseball is a strategic baseball board game, similar to APBA and Strat-O-Matic, that is played with cards representing each player from a particular baseball season, and which feature numbers that—through formulas using that player’s actual statistics from that season—represent how well a player will likely perform in any given game. Instead of dice, a deck of ‘Fast Action Cards’ is used to determine game results, such as at-bats, putouts, baserunning, scoring, and even such fringe situations as injuries, rainouts, and freak plays (ejections, triple plays, inside-the-park home runs, etc). A person managing a team is also given free reign to make decisions not covered by a card draw: substituting players and changing pitchers, issuing intentional walks, playing the infield in or back, and when and where to have a baserunner make a steal attempt. Unlike fantasy baseball, Statis Pro is a simulation of an actual game, and not a gathering of points based on real-time player stats.
Who created Statis Pro Baseball?
The Avalon Hill Game Company, based in Baltimore, Maryland, who began production of simulation war games in 1954. The company released Statis Pro Baseball in 1978, and continued to release new editions each year, featuring the previous season’s player cards, through 1992, when a licensing dispute with the greedy bastards at Major League Baseball forced AH to cease operations of their excellent baseball game.
What prompted you to buy the game, and to replay an entire season?
In 1979, I was living in Bellevue, Washington, after having moved there from San Diego, and my friend Bob had told me about this fantastic new board game he’d found called Statis Pro Baseball. I’d just started my first-ever job, at a Shakey’s Pizza in nearby Redmond, and after receiving my first paycheck, I went to a local hobby shop called World of Toys and purchased the game for $15.00. Since Bob’s version of the game also included 1978 player cards, we’d decided to replay the season between us, with Bob controlling the American League (his favorite team was the Red Sox), and with me in charge of the National League, since I was a fan of the Reds. At the time, Bob had been stricken with leukemia, and before we could start our 1978 replay, he passed away, in February of 1980. I decided then to honor our commitment and replay the season on my own; it took a few months, but I finally got the season underway on August 22, 1980.
What is SP78 Replay?
It’s the name I’ve given to the baseball season I’m replaying, shortened from the original ‘Statis Pro 1978 Replay Baseball Season’ I’d created when the season opened, and is usually referred to simply as SP78.
How long does it take to play a game?
For me, it’s about ten minutes of prep—setting up the game board and thoroughly shuffling the Fast Action Card deck, choosing lineups, and filling out the scoresheet—and on average about thirty minutes to play a 9-inning game. My longest game time-wise was a 23-inning contest between the Expos and Phillies that took nearly 3½ hours to play, while my shortest was a 2-1 Red Sox win over the Angels that took only 16 minutes to complete.
Do you play games alone, or against someone?
Mostly solo, but on occasion I have a friend or family member as an opponent. Early on in the season, my brother Scott and my friend Steve P played quite a few games (over thirty each), but nowadays it’s mostly just me…although in the past year I’ve had three friends and my father manage in games, so maybe interest is picking up again. Overall, ten people have managed over one hundred games against me since 1980.
Have more than two people ever participated in the playing of a game?
Twice, actually: in 1989 and again in 2000, when my brother Scott and my friend Steve P paired up as co-managers and squared off against me in games played at Steve’s condo in Escondido, California. The first was a 17-inning affair won by the Steve- and Scott-led Astros 12-5 over the Mets, while I took the second contest 11 years later, a 3-2 Angels win over the Rangers in the SP78 20th Anniversary game.
Have you ever not taken part in a game from your SP78 Replay season?
Yes, back in 1981, when my brother Scott played four games on his own over the July 4th weekend. He did this with my permission, but I’ll never again be absent from managing in an SP78 game.
Have you ever thought about giving up on playing the entire season?
Never! Wait, yes I have…in 1982 I decided to switch to a Reds-only season, but that lasted just three games before I returned to the original plan of playing every game from 1978.
What’s the most memorable game you’ve played so far?
I’d say my favorite would have to be the ‘Steve Ontiveros Day’ game between the Dodgers and Cubs at Wrigley Field, which was played on May 7, 1988 at the apartment my brother Scott and I shared in San Bernardino, California. Scott was there to watch the game, as was my friend Steve P, who had driven up from San Diego for the festivities. Ontiveros had been on the disabled list for eight years, and was playing his first game after coming off the DL; he went 2-for-4 with three RBI and played a flawless game at third base. I’d created admission tickets and game programs for the first time, and after the game we celebrated the Cubs win with dinner at a nearby Round Table Pizza.
In some of the game board photos, I see a small photograph of someone wearing a red shirt. Who is that?
That’s my friend Bob, in a photo from the summer of 1979, shortly before he’d introduced me Statis Pro Baseball, and about seven months before he died of leukemia. Every now and then—especially when I play games featuring his favorite team, the Red Sox—I prop his photo up near the board so he can attend the game I’m playing.
You’ve been replaying this season for over forty years now…shouldn’t you get a life?
Trust me, I have one. If I didn’t, I would’ve finished this freaking season decades ago.
I read your article on Statis Pro. Pretty Cool. I thought I might take a chance writing.
I am in a league that has played 2 full seasons of Statis Pro using each teams All Time Players. MLB TV has even featured us!
We play one game a week with breaks in the year. The home team writes up a game story which is sent to all owners. The time commitment is an hour or 2 per week. We play the board version of the game. The owners of each team select their own rosters based on our eligibility rules.
We have 2 available teams: the Red Sox (one of the best overall teams) and the Marlins (a team expected to contend in a division against other expansion era teams). Owners come from all walks of life and cities around the country and are generally members of SABR
Let me know if you have any interest and I can send you additional information.
Thanks Rob! I replied via e-mail!
Do you think it’s likely that you have played the 1978 version of Statis Pro Baseball more than anyone else?
And if so, do you also hold the same distinction for NHL ’98?
Have any players from 1978 ever made a cameo appearance in an NHL ’98 game?
Last question, have you ever seen a grown . . . never mind.
I know that people have played complete seasons of Strat-O-Matic and APBA in much less time than the 32 years it’s taken me to play this season thus far, so I can only assume that, back in 1979, someone bought a Statis Pro game with the ’78 season and finished it within a year or two, which would mean he (or she) would’ve played the 2,000+ games necessary to complete such a regulation season…more than the 1,200+ I’ve played up to this point. So I would say no, I’m probably not the world leader in games played in Statis Pro’s 1978 season.
And with my old desktop computer being out of commission for the past five years, and without a suitable replacement yet to be found, denying me the opportunity to play NHL98 since 2007, I’m guessing someone somewhere has also played more games of NHL98 than me; for years after its release it remained the most highly-regarded of the EA hockey games, so I’m going to assume that someone had just as much fun as I did with it, and played more than the three or four full seasons that I was able to before my computer went kaput.
As for players from 1978 making cameo appearances in NHL98 (and you do mean NHL players from ’78, and not Statis Pro Baseball players, right?), I’d say no…unless you count Slappy Pepperton of the Canadiens, who may have seen some minor league action in 1978, but who actually started his fictitious NHL career in 1979.
As for your last question: Yes, I have seen a grown…up accidentally spank their obnoxious child in the crotch in a McDonald’s parking lot.
I work with Steve P.
I started playing statis pro baseball in late 70’s.
Are you calling up players from minors? If so, how are you determining major league equivalencies?
What is your system regarding pitching injuries?
Hi Chris, and thanks for stopping by! I’m guessing because you played Statis Pro in the late 70s, you had the 1977 or 1978 season cards…are you still playing?
Yes, I do call up players from the minors…the game I purchased supplied a few charts that had ‘fringe’ player numbers already spelled out, if I wanted to type up my own minor league cards. These were players who saw action in ’78, but weren’t included on Statis Pro’s 25-man rosters of cards. Just recently I had to create a third-string catcher for the Tigers, who didn’t have ’78 stats at the major league level, so I used his AAA numbers from 1978, which I found on-line at Baseball Reference, and created his card using the formulas that were supplied with the game.
Concerning pitcher injuries, it took me about half the season to finally get sick of pitchers not being injured, so I created my own Z-play injury chart, that uses 6- and 8-sided dice. First, I went through my collection of 1978 and 1979 media guides, and tracked down pitcher injuries and their corresponding number of games missed. Then based on severity of injuries and and days out, I made eight ‘levels’ of six injury scenarios each, and roll both dice whenever I get a ‘Z’ card number of 81-88.
Also, I didn’t like the fact that rainouts, rain delays, and injuries couldn’t occur before a game started, so I made another chart that I use when the first card draw of a game is a ‘Z’; now, I can have games stopped by inclement weather before the first pitch, and have players injured (for that game only) during warm-ups and batting practice.
Hope that helps…and I hope Steve’s not too much of a taskmaster at work!
Fascinating site. I enjoyed SP for many years as a kid during the 1980’s. Now my 10 year old son has picked up the craze and last year he and I ran a 6 team league that played 75 games. He absolutely loves it!!! Last year in our World Series the Baltimore Orioles defeated the Washington Nationals 4-1. We buy new cards every year off the internet and have our game board and charts laid out. We play between 8 and 20 games per week. We keep all stats on Excel spreadsheets. This year we are getting bold and going for an 81 game schedule therefore we cut all injury times in half.
I love reading your site, keep up the great work.
Hi Tony! Thanks for checking out my site, and for the nice comments! I always like to hear from other Statis Pro fans, and it sounds like you and your son have a great league going. I envy the fact that you two can play so many games per week! Which six teams do you play, and is it always the same six each time? Keep me updated if you can on your 81-game season…although I’d say go all out and shoot for 162!
Come back and visit when you can…I should be back on a normal home schedule in the near future, and hope to have more articles and updates and such posted on a regular basis. Thanks again for stopping by, and good luck with that new season!
Good question, last year we had the following:
This year with current record:
NY Yankees 4-8
Los Angeles Angels 6-6
Arizona Diamondbacks 6-6
We develop a balanced schedule using 2 and 3 game series. We also “shuffle” each teams starting rotation every 15 games so that #1 starters don’t always face each other so we can properly represent off days and such.
This year Paul Goldschmidt is off to a hot start batting .500 in 53 PA’s so far. Cliff Lee has been the dominant pitcher with a 2-0 record and 23 K’s through 2 starts. On the closers side John Axford of the Indians has 5 saves to lead the league so far.
Notable injuries: Dominic Brown (hamstring), JB Schuck (crashed into the wall, leg).
Cool selection of teams…I’ve been a Cincinnati fan since the 1970s, so…Go Reds! I’ve got to work on my pitching rotations, too, to prepare for August; now, I’ll mostly go with 4-man rotations, with a few teams having 5-man. And don’t you just love Z-plays? I’ve created my own injury results (my game didn’t allow for pitcher injuries), and now I have situations for pre-game rainouts and injuries, if the first card drawn of the game is a Z.
I have a guy who I buy the teams from send me custom Z charts for each situation as far as outs and men on base. Injuries are incorporated into them.
I’ve been thinking about revamping my entire Z-play chart, too, but for now I think I’ll stick with the one that came with the game. There are a few devastating calls in there (one has three players ejected from one team at the same time), but for me that’s what makes the Z-plays so much fun.
I have pretty much zero knowledge of baseball and even less (if that’s possible?) about Statis Pro but this has got to be the most niche blog I’ve ever encountered and it’s fantastic. The level of detail, dedication, and personal motivation is incredible keep it going!
Hey James, thanks for the visit and the nice comments! Yeah, you won’t find many blogs like this one…I have 43 followers, which is about 40 more than I expected to get with a site like this. I’m still getting it organized and filled up with goodies (stats, photos, articles, recaps), so even if you’re not a baseball fan, I hope you can stop by every once in a while and check out what’s new. At the very least, maybe I can turn you into a baseball board game fan!
Hi Todd, no worries it was great to stumble onto (from Popcorn Nights actually). Haha you could give it a go but there’s way too much going on, football (soccer) is my game. One goal, one ball, easy scoring ha! I did post a link to your blog on Facebook though and I have a good friend (a blue jay’s fan) who found your site fascinating and wanted to find something similar for Hockey (both my friend and I are big Canucks fans). Maybe there’s a gap in the market for that sorta thing
Thanks for the Facebook link…maybe that will help boost my followers total past the magic 50 mark! And I actually own a hockey board game, Strat-O-Matic Hockey, but tell your friend sorry, I have no plans to create a hockey game blog site…yet.
Maybe I’ll suggest he starts it up one day. Hopefully we can push you over the magic 50, always nice to reach a milestone.
If you guys create a Canucks Strat-O Replay blog, I’ll be Follower #1.
Hahaa I’ll consider it for the future.
Fellow Reds fan here, I’m thinking about doing something similar for the 1988 season of Statis-Pro. I recently have gotten back into it through some of the “advanced” cards available online. How do you keep stats? I’m thinking about using the Strat-O-Matic computer game, and just inputting the Statis-Pro play results.
Hi Andy, and thanks for stopping by. I guess you can say I keep stats the semi-old-fashioned way: using a calculator and updating numbers by hand using self-created word document tables on my laptop. Also, I’m just now starting to create tables in Excel so I can track current leaders at all times. I’m guessing it would be MUCH easier to keep stats with a computer version of the game, but alas, I’m still using the board version, so it’s pencil and paper for me. Have fun with your ’88 season, come back and visit when you can, and…go Reds!
Interesting attempt hope you eventually complete it. I have just started a 10 team 54 game schedule of the 1941 season teams are washington, brooklyn, st louis, yankees, giants, red sox, pirates, cubbies, cleveland, and the tigers completed 18 games so far yankees lead by 1 game.
Don’t worry, I promise I’ll complete this thing…I’m guessing in another 7-10 years. And cool that you’re doing the ’41 season…lots of great names on those teams I’m sure. And if you want my opinion, don’t stop at 54 games…go for 154!
This website is awesome. I love that you’ve been tabulating stats. Is there a baseball stat tracker that you’ve been using? I’m about to revive a 20 year-dormant SPB rivalry with a childhood friend and would like to use current technology to our advantage.
Thanks, Ben! I do all my stats by hand, typing them into my laptop and then onto the blog site. The stat tables you see on each team page are taken from a formula offered by the Baseball Reference site, which you can find on any of their stat pages. I’m also working on creating some tables in Excel that will allow me to check current league leaders at all times for each batting and pitching category…something I’ve never been able to do before. And which season are you and your friend playing?
Wow. That’s great. I’m thinking of saving time by using a computer based score-sheet that computes statistics as well. All I have to do is track the game. I’m just not sure what program to use. I’ve tried one that was free, but it was buggy (somehow the home team was half an inning ahead of the visiting team!). Considering the massive number of games that you’re playing, it might be a time saver for you as well?
I like your spreadsheet idea. I’ve been using a spreadsheet to analyze batter cards to Moneyball my lineup.
My friend and I are playing 1980 National League. Our house rules are that we each pick an All Star team. You can only pick players with INJ ratings of 5 or less. It’s a two team draft, so no shared players between teams. We then play two 81-game “half” seasons. If a team wins both halves, it is declared the champ. If the halves are split, then we have a 7 game playoffs. We’ve played somewhere between 2-4.5 seasons this way. We also had the 1979 season. The 1980 NL season is in its second half, with 59 games to play. The last game we played was in 1989. I’m going to surprise him by mailing him our old set (dug up from my parents’ garage’s attic) so we can start playing again (hooray for modern technology and video conferencing… we live in different cities these days).
I’m a follower of your site, now, and will be sure to hook my friend up with it too. He’ll dig it.
Hey Ben, thanks for becoming a follower! And cool that you’re playing the 1980 season…a season I remember well, where most of the players from ’78 were still active. And I like that you’re finishing off that season nearly 30 years after you last played; hopefully you’re friend is still interested in taking part. How long do you predict it will take you guys to finish off those 59 games? For me and my season, it was 2.5 years!
And that computer scoresheet idea is a good one, but I’m so used to using pencil and paper now, it’s become an enjoyable aspect of the game, and I’d miss not scoring games the ‘old’ way. At least I now type stats into a computer…I used to slog my way through that process using a pencil and eraser as well!
Keep me updated on your season when you can, and thanks again for joining the festivities here at the site!
Hi Todd. I have a major update and a request for help. Also, a correction… it had been 30 years, not 20, since my friend and I had last played our 1980 NL Statis Pro Baseball season.
I have good news! He loved the idea of playing SPB again and we continued the season in May of 2018 via video-conferencing (we live in different cities). We finished the season last month after logging 63 more games. I ended up using IScore to score our games and tabulate statistics. It’s pretty good, though it doesn’t do things like lefty/righty splits or batter-pitcher head-to-head stats. We had a great time, and don’t want to stop now.
Thus, we dug up the SPB set that I got when I was a kid: the first one we ever used. We decided to use the AL 79 players as our pool and pick two teams with the following rules: all batters must be INJ 5 or better, all starters must have had 25 starts in 79, and all relievers must have had at least 40 appearances in relief. We had our draft last Thursday and today played our first game: a 7-6 slugfest with an Eddie Murray homer! We are looking forward to the season ahead: 162 games – all between just our two teams. It should take us around 5 years to complete. I’ll keep you posted.
My request for help is this: today, late in the game, I was the victim of a Z injury play: Fred Lynn and Gary Roenicke collided (providing my friend with the 7th and deciding run) and my only two outfielders left were Reggie Jackson, on my bench, and Chet Lemon, my DH. Thus, I had to move Chester to the OF, vacate my DH slot, and have my pitcher, Dick Drago, bat. However, I lost my numbered (1 through 10) Batting Cards! I can’t find them anywhere. So we didn’t have a card for Drago to use at bat. Do you or any of your followers have them? Or were they exclusive to the 1979 version? A simple photograph of them would be enough for us. I have a feeling, though rare, this won’t be the last time something like this happens to us.
Hey Ben! First off, I just found this in my spam folder, so I apologize for the delay (just two days, but still!). Secondly, how awesome that you and your friend started that season again, and I appreciate the update! And VERY cool that you’re now playing a 1979 AL “All-Star” season between you two…very interesting with the rules (injury rating, 25 starts, etc). I love the idea that it’s you two going head-to-head with the same roster of players every game…basically, a 162-game World Series (or in this case, ALCS).
And please do keep me posted on the season…I’d love to hear how you guys enjoy this ‘same teams, every game’ season! The cool part is, you drafted players you liked, or WANTED on your team, so it’s not like you’re going to get bored with your respective squads. And by having players with injury ratings of 5 or better, I’m assuming that means, when an injury occurs, they’ll be out for a low number of games, and thus there will be no minor league players to call up, and no disabled lists.
Okay, so about your request: I’d be happy to help, and I have TWO options available to you. The first is, I have the ‘Pitcher Batting Chart’ that came with the 1978 season, and I could easily make a scan of that and send it to you. And I do own the 1979 game, which I’d bought on-line a year ago, but when I checked just now, I couldn’t find any 1-10 pitcher batting cards included…nor did it include the Pitcher Batting Chart like my ’78 game had. But those ’79 pitcher cards have their batting card number on them, just like my ’78 cards, which makes me think they still used the Batting Chart for that season, and not the 1-10 cards. BUT…somehow, someway, I have the 1-10 pitcher batting cards from the 1982 game! So I’ll leave it up to you: Pitching Chart with all ten pitcher batting options on it from ’78, or the 1-10 cards, but from the ’82 season.
Also, I can’t remember if I’ve ever mentioned it, but a few years back I created my own type of injury charts, including one for pitchers, that require a 6-sided dice. The player injuries were taken from both the ’78 and ’82 Z-charts, while the pitcher injuries were pulled from media guides from the ’78 and ’79 seasons. If you’re interested, let me know.
Hi Todd. No worries about the spam folder. I’m just happy you found the message at all. You’re right, we’re basically playing a 162 game world series. But to prevent one team from running away with it all early, we split the season into two halves, each with 81 games. If one team wins both halves, that team is the champion. If each team wins a half, then we have a 7 game world series! Our last season, 1980 NL, ended with a world series that lasted 5 games.
For our new season, we’ve decided to try something new: pitcher rest rules. We’re basically using the Pursue-the-Pennant pitcher rest rules. However, you can have an unrested pitcher enter a game. The catch is that you have to subtract 1 from the top end PB number for each day of rest the pitcher still needs. To count days, we’re using the 1979 LA Dodgers schedule (I was a Dodgers fan before I quit MLB because of the 1994 strike and he still is). Thus, if 1979 Mike Marshall, PB: 2-8, pitches unrested with one more day needed of rest, he functions as a 2-7 pitcher. We’ve only played two games, but so far we’re really enjoying it. Makes managing the entire staff much more interesting.
Regarding your offers of providing either the 1978 Pitching Chart with all ten pitcher batting options or the 1982 1-10 cards, would it be possible to scan or photograph both? Then we could take a look and see what we think. If not, I agree with your educated guess that the 1978 chart will do and choose that.
I remember reading about your pitcher injury rules. That’s fantastic that you did that. If it’s not too much trouble for you to share, we’d love to see them.
Thank you so much for your help.
Cool plan with the 81-game halves…I think if my team was about to win both halves, I’d purposely tank the rest of the season just so a World Series could be played! And that’s interesting to hear about the Pursue-the-Pennant rule: I do that too, when I start a pitcher before he’s rested (it doesn’t happen often)…I drop their PB by one as well! Glad you guys are having fun with the game and your new season…after forty years, I’m still having plenty of fun with mine.
I’ll work on scanning the chart and cards tonight, and get them sent out to you tonight or tomorrow, along with the home-created injury charts. Should I send them via your ‘buttered groove’ e-mail, or is there a better one I should use?
Oh yeah, I wanted to ask: did either of you choose Thurman Munson during your draft? And if so, does he get to play the whole season? In my SP78 season, I decided to have Lyman Bostock play the entire year, as if nothing happened otherwise.
You’re completely correct: each time we’ve failed to have a World Series, I’ve felt disappointed. We’ve now played four complete 162-game seasons. Only one, the last one that we finished after a 30-year gap, had a World Series. It was very exciting.
Thank you again for being willing to scan the cards! The buttered groove email would be perfect. Someone already took the buttered soul email, which is one of my favorite albums.
We did not choose Thurman Munson, because of his INJ number. What a great idea, though: to honor him by treating him as if he played the whole season. What a thoughtful thing to do. Now I wish we had done that! Kudos to you for doing that for Bostock. I’ll talk to my friend about dedicating our season to Munson. I’m sure he’ll agree.
Hey Ben, no sweat with the scanning…glad to help. And I had to look up ‘hot buttered soul’…Isaac Hayes!
And that makes sense that you wouldn’t choose Munson, because of his injury rating…I didn’t think about that. And that’ll be cool to dedicate the season to Thurman…you could even have your August 2nd game played at Yankee Stadium!
I’m sending off the first few scans now…still have to scan the cards, then those will be on the way!
It’s so nice to come across your blog. It brings back such great memories. No matter what turmoil I had in my life, I always had SPB.
I first found SPB in 1980 in suburban Portland, Oregon. The 1979 cards were my first season. Never tried anything so ambitious.
I happen to have original team sets from 79, 82-89, 91-92. I’m looking to sell them to someone who wants to provide a good home. If you run across someone who would be interested, I’d be happy to chat with them. Most of them live in Washington State, but a few are with me here in Barcelona.
Have a great season!
Hi Rob! Thanks for stopping by, and I’m glad I could invoke some fond memories of the game. That’s cool that you played a season (1979) that was similar to mine; did you ever finish it? I recently picked up a set of ’79 team cards for whenever I finish my 1978 season, but I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to start it…especially if I make the last out of the ’78 season when I’m 90.
I don’t know of anyone else who plays the Statis Pro Baseball board game beyond the few players I’ve met on-line, but if I do meet someone, I’ll let them know about your season sets for sale. And come back and visit again…I’ll be back to regularly posting and playing games again in a few weeks!
Hello Robert: Would be interested in those sets if you haven’t unloaded them already.
Hit me up on Hotmail. rc_merino
Happy to see if I can help you out.
p.s. Thank you, Todd!
Hey There: Am an old time Statis Pro player, who first started playing when he got the 1979 set. I played a little more than 10 years, playing several hundreds of games and then when I moved out of my house, my father sold all my cards and game sets. I recently had the opportunity to purchase the 1978 set on Ebay, so I am looking forward to playing again. Who says you can’t go back again?
I even found someone else who was interested in playing via discord. Am a lifetime Angels fan, I’m looking forward to playing them. Its still a little heart breaking to see that Lyman Bostock card. Still, growing up in SoCal, the Dodgers were huge. The ’78 Dodgers were an awesome team. Moreover, who could say “no” to listening to Vin Scully call the game.
I hope this is not out of line, but one thing that has driven me crazy with this 1978 set that I bought, is that the pitcher hitting card is missing. I recall that in the late 1970’s, Statis Pro had a single card for the pitchers who were batting, however the SAC values are listed on the pitcher cards. Did the ’78 set have a hitting card for pitchers? Is it just missing in my set?
Hi Darren! Thanks for the visit and the trip down memory lane, and cool that you’re going to play the ’78 season! Obviously, a lot of players from the ’79 season were also part of the ’78 campaign, so I’m sure you’ll recognize a lot of names. It kills me that you played all those games from ’79, then your dad sold the set. I hope he at least gave you the earnings!
And your pitcher’s hitting card question is most definitely NOT out of line. Instead of a single hitting card, my version of the game came with a hitting chart for pitchers, which uses the ‘batting card’ number located on every pitcher’s card. What I like about it is that it gives a bit more variety to the batting skills and hit/out results of pitchers, instead of having to rely on just one generic ‘batting card’. I made a scan of the sheet and attached it to an e-mail I just now sent you, in case you’d like to use it for your season.
My ’78 season was, I believe, the first version for that year, which may explain why that sheet was included instead of a batting card; I didn’t have an official Rick Langford player card, either, so I had to create one…then I found out that later ’78 editions HAD the card! As for Lyman Bostock; since he played in the Angels-White Sox game that fateful day in September, I’ve decided to bench him that game, and change the course of history…at least in my SP78 universe.
Thanks again for the visit, and good luck with your season…keep me posted on your progress, and came back and visit whenever you can! (And let me know if your question to Robert doesn’t get a response…I’ll e-mail him with your request).
Thanks for the word and the assist on the pitchers hitting cards. Sadly, didn’t get any of the cash from those cards. I think my dad ended up charging pennies on the dollar anyway. It makes me want to cry. LOL.
I still remember the day when I heard that Lyman Bostock was shot to death. I was 11 years old and I remember reading it in the newspaper. It was the most unbelievable and terrible news.
As an additional comment, the 78 Series was epic. Will never forget both Bob Welch’s strike out of Reggie Jackson to end the game and Jackson’s three home run game, That was maybe one of the first World Series that I watched through as a kid. As so happens, my all time home run leader in Home Runs playing Statis Pro was Reggie Jackson. Yeah, I played the Yankees a lot!
Anyway, thanks for posting all your stats and sharing your experience. It brings back a lot of awesome memories.
Glad I can spark a few good SP memories for you, Darren! And yeah, I was thrown for a moment when I read your comment about Jackson’s three HR’s in the ’78 Series…had to stop and think about that one!
As for memories of Lyman, I remember I was up watching Saturday Night Live when the show was interrupted by a news bulletin about his death. I was shocked, and immediately went to wake up my Dad with the news. Less than a year later, I’d be struck again when news came over the radio that we’d lost Thurman Munson as well.
Sorry, I just remembered after writing my comment that Reggie’s three home run game was ’77. Memories can be slippery things.
That’s okay, Darren, I have the same lapses sometimes…I still remember Reggie hitting six in that game, and not three. 😉
Love this site! Have you seen the 1984 Statis Pro guy, doing the same but with that year? Also, looking for original sp baseball sets 1986, and 1988-92 if you have any to sell or trade. I have all the great pennant race sets plus the 10 great teams set to trade and of course can send paypal. firstname.lastname@example.org if you do.
Hey William, glad you like the site, and thanks for the visit! I’ve remember stopping by another guy’s SP site many years ago, but I can’t recall what season he was replaying…who knows it might’ve been the 1984 guy. (And I just did a search on-line…yep, that’s the guy!)
And sorry, but I don’t own any other sets, except for my back-up 1978 set, to be used if my current 40-year-old set ever gets lost or stolen. I did once own the Superstar Baseball bookshelf game, but I don’t anymore…I found myself playing Statis Pro ALL the time, and never bothering with Superstar, so I got rid of it.
You’ve inspired me to replay the season too with my game that I had as a kid, but I got it out of the attic and it’s all there but the fringe player charts. Would you be willing to take a photo or scan them and send to me?
Hey Bruce, glad to hear you’re getting back into it…keep me posted on the progress! And I’ll scan those charts right now and e-mail them to you…there will probably be 4-6 files attached. Any particular team you’ll be rooting for in your season?
Hi Todd. You may have covered this and if so, my apologies. The 1979 game that I purchased
has some red and blue FACs. What is the significance of the colored FACs ?
Nope, I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned this here, but I read something years ago that discussed this very topic. According to what was said, the colors meant something in an early version of the game, but in our versions, there is no purpose for them (in later versions/seasons, the text is all black). Mine are red, black, blue, and green, and though there’s no reason for me to do this, after I shuffle the FAC deck before a game, I always make sure a blue/green card is on top before I start. Baseball superstition, I guess.
Thanks so much.
No problem, John!
How do you view the overall accuracy of the replay and would you recommend the original edition of Statis Pro for someone wanting to do a season replay? There are three editions and eventually an Advanced version. How do you find SP differs from APBA and Strat-O-Matic in terms of game play? Thank you.
Hi Chris! I’ve been playing this game for 42 years, and have had fun with it the entire time, so I would definitely recommend it to someone wanting to replay a season. Now that I’m into late-August, I can say that, as far as accuracy goes, it does quite well, with a few anomalies thrown in to keep things interesting.
Most of the teams are playing as they played in ’78, but again with a few anomalies: the Angels are nowhere near first place in my league (on August 25th they were first in the AL West), while in the AL East the Yankees were seven games out of first, where in my season they’re in first with a five-game lead. Early on, the lowly Mariners reeled off a 16-game winning streak, by far the longest in my season, but how they pulled that off still baffles me.
And while Ron Guidry and Gaylord Perry are on their way to 20-win seasons, just like in ’78, there are some pitchers who are under-performing (Tom Seaver, Jim Palmer), while others are doing well above expectations (Jon Matlack, Rick Waits). But the biggest inconsistency is Jim Rice, the AL MVP in ’78; in my season, even with an outstanding Statis Pro card, he’s not doing well at all! But that’s also the fun part; the unheralded players get to have shining moments (like Dick Ruthven throwing my first no-hitter).
So overall, yes, I’d say the game is sufficiently accurate, in both statistics and gameplay. I just can’t compare it to the other two games, APBA and Strat-O-Matic, because I’ve never played them…for me it’s always been Statis Pro. And if you decided to start a season replay, keep me updated when you can!
Do you use the “as-played” lineups and pitching matchups or do you do your own lineups and pitching rotations for the SP78 replay?
Lineups and starting pitchers are all decided by me, except on rare special occasions – like my 40th Anniversary game – where I went with the exact lineups and pitchers for that particular game. Sometimes I’ll check to see if a team batted a certain player in a certain spot in the order, but most of the time I place them in the order that makes the most sense to me: speedsters and high-average hitters on top, heavy hitters towards the middle, and everyone else towards the bottom. Sometimes, I’ll try and plan a premiere pitching match-up for an upcoming series, like Guidry vs Palmer, Perry vs Carlton, etc.
At any point did you ever consider using the 3rd edition of Status Pro? I am intrigued by the original with the 1978 season. How often did you have to use the fringe players and did you end up making cards for those? How did you handle players that played for more than one team? Thanks.
No, the edition I bought was what I started my 1978 replay season with, and I’m still working my way through that…I can’t imagine starting another season after this one!
I used my first fringe player when I had my first injury that warranted a stay on the disabled list, which happened during the eighth game of my season. For the first several AAA players, I created their player cards on whatever seemed to the handy: the back of a business card, a cut-to-size index card, and finally some of the blank cards that came with the game. In the early ’90s, I typed up every fringe player’s stats into card form, then made copies on cardstock paper, and cut the cards to their proper Statis Pro size.
As for players who played for more than one team, it was my intention from the very beginning to keep every player on the team they started the season with, with no trades, signings, or free agency taking place. Foolishly, I assumed the Statis Pro game placed every player on their Opening Day squads, but several years after I started playing I discovered that no, they had dozens of these multi-team players placed on teams they did not start the ’78 season with. I even have a few players who were traded in September, and that’s the team Avalon Hill put them on! But even with all that, I’ve still stuck by my rule that all players will remain with the teams they started MY season with.
Are the Red Sox really at 61-67 in your replay? They seem like a big disappointment.
What are your thoughts on the whole lefty/righty splits in SP original game? I recently got an unpunched complete game of SP 78 was most interested in replaying the AL pennant race. Thanks.
Yes, they really are, and they are a disappointment…but I don’t know why. Another one of those game anomalies, I guess! I keep waiting for them to have that miracle turnaround that the Yankees had in ’78, but I don’t think that’s going to happen (I’d say the Orioles have a better chance of that). As I’ve mentioned a few times, Jim Rice is not only NOT playing up to his potential, but he’s not playing up to his player card’s potential, either…he has amazing numbers on his card, but he isn’t taking advantage of them. Carl Yastrzemski has been the only consistently good player for the team this season.
And by ‘lefty/righty splits’, do you mean the pitcher vs batter numbers that allow for base hits or strikeouts/foul-outs, depending on LH or RH pitcher vs LH or RH batter? If so…yes, I allow those to happen, even though it ruined Ed Halicki’s perfect game (but saved Mike Caldwell’s no-hitter!). I think there should be some kind of advantage in those LH vs RH situations (or LH vs LH, RH vs RH for pitchers)…to me, that’s one reason why you take a pitcher out, or use a pinch-hitter…to gain that bit of advantage.
Have you used the same original set from 1978, including FACs, board, charts, fringe player sheets, etc? If so how have you been able to keep them in good shape. How often do you shuffle the FAC deck for variety? Thanks.
Hi Chris! Yes, everything from the game I purchased in 1979 is still original, 43 years old and counting! Although I should admit, the materials aren’t in the best of condition after four decades. The board is getting pretty scuffed up, and there’s that ever-present potato chip crumb stain from 1987 behind second, plus it’s now in four pieces, instead of two that fold. The FACs and player cards are getting a little beat up as well…especially the FACs, which are now – to put it mildly – an off-white color. Just 1,698 games worth of wear and tear, I guess.
The fringe player charts are still decent, only because I made AAA player cards for every player back in the ’90s, and didn’t need to use the charts on a daily basis. And though I still have the three out charts, I made cardstock copies a few decades back, and use those now…they’re in protective sheets, so they’re still in mint condition.
The FAC deck I shuffle extensively before every game; back in the 80s, when I was just getting started, I played a game that was having many of the same results from the previous game, including a few identical Z plays. So since then, I pull all four Z cards, shuffle the deck, add the Z cards back in, then shuffle the deck well one more time before starting.
Have you started your own season yet? If you have, how’s it going so far?